This video is causing quite the buzz – it’s taken from a John Piper sermon.
Prosperity Gospel vs. The Real Gospel
This video is causing quite the buzz – it’s taken from a John Piper sermon.
wow… that was pretty intense. i see where he was going, but can’t God be glorified in any situation? loss and abundance? it is the measure of the heart, not the measure of the posessions. i think that goes both ways. i think its somehwere in ezekial, “man looks at the outward appearance but God looks at the heart.” a man can have nothing and still not give god glory while a man could have millions and be sold out for christ. i know it was a short video and while I do agree with much of it, i think it was a bit one-sided.
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Does Deuteronomy 28 apply to Christians today? God did give Isreal a prosperity message and promise. And He also gave them the alternative if they disobeyed. A major curse for turning away from Him.
I believe God desires to bless His children on earth, but more importantly that the gifts are not greater than the Giver of all good things. God desires us to have our treasure be God. That we no longer desire sin, but that we say ‘no’ to unrighteousness.
Mr. Piper- Thanks for calling the prosperity ‘gospel’ CRAP! Right on brother! The church has sown bad seeds that encourage people to call idolatry Christianity.
Well, now the winnowing and sifting will soon begin and may the chaff be blown away. Hang on church it could be a bumpy ride.
Jay-to-the-Mie:
YES God can and SHOULD be glorified in any situation – the issue is when so-called “prosperity preachers” promise a life FULL of those million-dollar-days – talk about one-sided!
By the way – I heard another one of those “millionaires who is sold-out for Christ” tonight – Dave Ramsey – and he gives 100% of the credit to God! I wish there were more like him!
“Most glorified in loss, not prosperity.” I don’t know if I can agree with it. I agree with not spreading false add ons to the gospel, like he gave examples of, but I think God is glorified most by obedience, whether that is faithfulness to him in little, or faithful in plenty…to give your plenty to others who have little, with an untight grip because you know where it came from.
I see both sides of the coin too. I can understand the need for discerning the ‘true gospel’, and what doesn’t measure up to what God’s Word is teaching. I think we are, at times, magnifying the BIGGNESS of deeds and accumulation of money or possessions, even in Christian circles. How about measuring the man/woman by whether they notice and reach out to the beggar; the harlot; the hungry; those that are lost. My heart meshes with the message that Erik and Jamie shared. How did my life, today, affect the life of one of those? Sold out-100% Spirit-filled and controlled….I too desire that.
i do think god desires to bless his children, but I agree with you Stevan that many “prosperity preachers” do take it to far and plug in a formula that following christ = being rich, living in perfect health, etc. the only formula i know God has given me to live by is faith + works = a full life in HIM. and i know that looks like so many more things than money or anything here on earth.